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Which electric floor heating to choose: cable or infrared?

 

Which electric floor heating to choose: cable or infrared?Until recently, on sale you could find two types electric underfloor heating: based on heating cables and heating mats. They did not have differences in the principle of operation, and the choice between them depended only on the features of the room in which floor heating is required.

A few years ago, a fundamentally new floor heating appeared on the market based on infrared films. Manufacturers unanimously declare the numerous advantages of this type of electric underfloor heating. Many people who carry out repairs in their apartments are interested in the question: “What kind of electric floor heating to lay?”.

The main argument of sellers in favor heating films - beneficial effects of infrared radiation on the human body. Indeed, medical research has established the healing properties of infrared radiation. It is used in physiotherapy to treat many diseases. But according to physics textbooks, many bodies are opaque to this kind of radiation; laminate, ceramics, and linoleum can also be attributed to such bodies.

No film manufacturer guarantees that your floor will transmit radiation that is beneficial to the body. Therefore, it can be argued that sellers' statements about the healing properties of infrared-based floors are to some extent a marketing ploy.


One of the main advantages of infrared films is lower energy consumption compared to heating cables, by about 15-20%. This phenomenon is explained by the absence of a screed on top of the film, as a consequence of heat losses in it, too.

However, do not forget that the screed is a protective layer that protects the electric underfloor heating itself from damage, and you and me - from electric shock. And in the case of infrared films, you actually walk on conductors with current, on top of which there is a floor covering. You can certainly use films with a supply voltage of 12 V, but in this case an unreliable element appears - a power supply.

As another advantage of infrared films, manufacturers indicate the ease of replacing part of the film in the event of a malfunction. This is achieved by connecting the heating elements in parallel. However, these same connections are precisely the most unreliable part of the system. At the same time, the heating cable is a solid conductor, the only weak point is the coupling, the location of which is recorded in the passport, and in case of failure it can also be replaced.

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In general, you can recommend the use of infrared films in case you did not plan to carry out serious repairs. For example, you can lift an already lying floor covering and lay the film under the bottom. Also, infrared floor heating is indispensable in case there is no way to raise the floor level due to screed.

Heating cables are best used in the bathroom, on the balcony, in the children's room. Since they have better waterproofing, and are able to provide greater electrical safety. In addition, ceramics or tiles are easier to lay on a screed than on infrared film.

Summing up, we can say that the electric underfloor heating based on infrared films is quite promising, capable of displacing other types of underfloor heating in the near future. However, today, due to some of its shortcomings, most consumers prefer heating cables.

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    # 1 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Somehow the warm floor from heating cables inspires me more confidence. Can infrared films replace a normal cable underfloor heating? It seems to me that all this is not reliable. Yes, and the temperature given, they must clearly lose.

     
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    One of the main advantages of infrared films is lower energy consumption compared to heating cables, by about 15-20%. Films can replace normal cable underfloor heating and will be replaced in the near future. They are completely reliable, and ease of installation gives an additional advantage. The given temperature is quite palpable and quite accordingly comfortable. In the bathroom, it is better not to use them, because there remains the possibility of electric shock. Yes, and tiles or tiles are better mounted on a cable floor heating. (screed)

     
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    Already installed these floors! If the cable heater is damaged, the entire cable stops working. If some segment of the film floor is damaged, the rest of the floor continues to work. Couplings, during installation, I do not use (create nervousness), I solder. The solder temperature is 180 degrees, and the temperature of the film floor is 60 degrees. In my country house, the film floor is set on the floor and on the wall, next to the bed, under a THIN carpet.

     
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    I make repairs in a new apartment. Installed 70% of the area of ​​the apartment. Two rooms under the laminate, and the corridor and bathrooms - tiles. I do not plan to winter there, but I will conduct experiments. Electrician himself. Most interested in energy consumption. Articles and advertising are one thing, but practice will show reality! Interested in the opinions of other people who in practice know the infrared floor at work!

     
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    I have already installed more than 50 cable and a number of 18-20 film problems have never arisen. If the installation and connections are done carefully and carefully, then everything will be fine. Of course, film ones are more economical, quickly heat up, less installation costs (I have never had to change them), but in principle I think this is quite real. Everything is good in its place. The main thing is to follow the indicated recommendations for installation, typical errors that sometimes have to be corrected after negligent workers: 1 - the sensor is attached to the cable or lies under the film in the heating place; 2 - the sensor is not in the corrugation or the corrugation goes too steeply onto the wall (replacement is not possible); 3 - insulation damage (for example, put a bucket of mortar when pouring, or poorly washed the surface); 4 - the terminals on the film are not broken (poor contact) and are not sealed tight (oxidation) These are typical, very common errors.

     
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    An RCD works for me when I turn on the infrared film underfloor heating under the tile! I mounted everything on technology and there is a leak! I threw the ground wire in the shield so that it would not knock out and I think what to do next! I would like to hear advice from PRACTICES !! As it should be in theory, ideally, and how to check, I know, the electrician himself.

    Many will probably say: remove the RCD and connect the ground!
    In theory, of course, it is better and you need to leave the ground. But is it not possible that the leakage currents are large enough and through the grounding wire from my apartment this leakage will go through all the metal (ground) structures through the main grounding bus (GZSh)? (This, in my opinion, should not happen if the grounding of the entrance to the shield entrance is made efficiently and effectively (as an additional, repeated, and equalization of potential) —and I have doubts about this! In my current situation, the entire leak just spreads over concrete and (thank God) no negative aspects seem to be observed (but the ouzo does not work and this is bad) ...

    I have two main questions.
    1. Can I do something to make it work?
    2.Can my apartment be a source of danger to the house? (Today I include only one fifth of the entire floor under the tile, and if I turn on all the groups, the leakage current will increase accordingly).

    P.S.
    But what if you connect the film floor through the diode bridge (sections that are not large in power will work) - will it work out narrowly? -I think so.
    Dear colleagues, what are your thoughts on this? Let's debate! The topic is really interesting and serious.

     
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    Quote: Valery
    correct after negligent workers: 1 - the sensor is attached to the cable or lies under the film in the place of heating

    And where do you think the sensor should lie?

     
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    ValeryThe same problem arose. I would like to know if it is possible that the leak is due to the glue not drying. Have you solved your problem?

     
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    What about EMF radiation? How to screen IR film that goes without a screen?

     
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    I would like to know about the effect of magnetic fields on residents. How they feel after a year is different after installing a warm floor.

     
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    # 11 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    There was a thought: what if you use the films in the form as they are on the ceiling, warm from top to bottom?! =)
    In appearance (judging by the photo) they look quite aesthetically pleasing =)

     
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    # 12 wrote: Igor Strelnikov | [quote]

     
     

    I am always surprised how much people do not know school physics. Citizens, and cable and film - heat emitters of the same spectrum. They differ only in mechanical properties, and the film wins due to a larger surface, i.e. more intense heat transfer, which gives energy savings. And yet, a lot of outright lies about ionization, the destruction of odors, etc. (online articles) Why lie? To buy?

     
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    Good afternoon. I laid IR floor heating in the bathroom. I made a cake - the floor is made of OSB, it contains foam, the foil is on top, then the floor is warm, on top there is a two-layer polyethylene film, then a GVLV sheet, knauf waterproofing on foxes, with gluing on the side, and finally linoleum. I did everything qualitatively, I put a DOUBLE layer of insulation on the electrical contacts. I checked everything, it works amazingly. Heated floor connected via ouzo 30 mA. and began to live quietly.
    As time passed, literally half a year, the water heater hung, it was the same, but there was no grounding. Used without problems. Then I made the grounding (I have a frequent house), checked it, 3.3 Ohm, and when I connected everything I was very upset ...
    With the warm field turned on and the water heater, if you stand barefoot on the floor, touching the tap water, painful tingling sensations are felt (there is a leak.
    If you turn off the warm floor, then everything is normal. What could be the reason?
    Uzo ABB is working, checked with a special device, it works on 25 mA.
    I did not try to disconnect the grounding, but I think it will not help. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

     
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    # 14 wrote: root | [quote]

     
     

    Don't you think that half the problem is in the water heater? After all, everything worked before him.