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What is the danger of old wiring

 

What is the danger of old wiring?When we hear the phrase “old wiring”, a very specific image pops up in our memory: two thin aluminum wires in common single-layer insulation with a wide and flat separation gap. Since the insulation is common, the phase and zero conductors, of course, do not differ in color in any way. What brand did that ever-memorable cable have? And it’s hard to remember, although it is still on sale to this day. Of course, we do not recommend using it.

Today, it can rightfully be said that aluminum in household wiring has already outlived its own. This is confirmed by the rules of the PUE, prohibiting the installation of aluminum conductors with a cross section of less than 16 square meters. mm But even without these norms, it has long been known that aluminum wires always form a film of non-conductive oxide on their surface, which often becomes cause overheating of contacts. In addition, the mechanical properties of aluminum, being not up to par and without it, from overheating become even worse: the conductor becomes brittle, can break off at any time.

In order to somehow minimize the disadvantages of aluminum wiring, quartz-petrolatum grease is used at the junction points of the conductors, and it is recommended that the connections themselves be inspected and revised periodically during operation. But who does all this in an ordinary apartment, the owners of which are not particularly knowledgeable in electrical engineering?

This question can be considered rhetorical. So it turns out that many apartment owners in old houses are forced to put up with sparking from outlets, switches, junction boxes, until change the wiring to copper.

By the way, a few words can be said separately about the junction boxes. In homes with old wiring, these boxes often become a source of trouble. Partly - for the reasons mentioned above, and partly - simply because any special clamps for connecting wires in the old days were not used.

Often the wires were simply twisted with pliers and wrapped with electrical tape. After decades, in the absence of the ability to replace the wiring, it is necessary to at least systematically inspect the twists in the boxes for signs of overheating. But after several “waves” of cosmetic and major repairs, after a repeated change of owners and, possibly, even a change in layout, who can tell where these boxes are? Where can we find them under a thick layer of plaster? And are there such tricky places where the twists are located outside of any boxes, for example, in the grooves between the floors?

But poor twisting can lead not only to a short circuit and wiring failure, but also elementary may cause fire.

A similar pattern is observed in old switchboards. Bad contacts, arcing, burned-out aluminum conductors with blackened insulation ... Let us add to this “company” old-style circuit breakers with broken-off handles, the operation threshold of which is already unknown to anyone (if they can work at all, since their contacts could have been attached to each other for a long time) )

Do not forget to mention the “elegant” introductory bag, for turning the handle which may not be enough effort with one hand. The most interesting thing is that the contacts of this bag over the years could have lost their elasticity, and this often leads to internal overheating. All of the above is a direct possibility of a fire.

Another danger associated with the operation of any old, and not just aluminum wiring is the risk of leakage currents. Their appearance is associated with aging of the insulation of conductors, that is, with the fact that it loses its insulating properties.In general, the wear of any conductors is determined, first of all, by the wear of the insulation.

So, insulation wear leads to leakage currents, and protection from the latter is simply not provided for in the old wiring systems. As a result, the electric potential of the network can be on any conductive surface in the house: on pipes of water supply and sewage, on the surface of the sink and ventilation duct, and the like.

Of course, it will not always be full-fledged 220 volts, but an electric shock will be quite noticeable. And you should not hope that third-party conductive parts in your house are grounded, because the state of this grounding is not controlled by anyone, even after the replacement and repair of utilities.

It turns out that in fact potential equalization systems in old houses, they are missing or not working, and thanks to the worn-out insulation of the wires, you can get an electric shock at almost any time. And large leakage currents can even cause heating in the place of poor contact and, as a result, a fire. It is for this reason that installation is recommended at the entrance to the living room by current regulations differential protection apparatus with a nominal value of 100 or more milliamps.

Finally, we note that the dangers arising from the old wiring - the danger of fire and electric shock - are compounded by the fact that the third, protective neutral conductor PE in TN-C system not installed. "Add" it is simply impossible now, sometimes even with a complete replacement of the wiring.

This means that owners of apartments with old wiring made with a two-wire aluminum cable, with some exaggeration, “walk along the edge of a knife”, balancing between the prospect of fire and electric shock. Indeed, most likely, the lack of protective grounding will detect the problem when the trouble already happens.

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    # 1 wrote: Shurochka | [quote]

     
     

    Eh. Well written. Everything is true ...
    Here are just one but! Most of our people cannot be defeated. We will wrap everything with a blue electrical tape, twist and twist it until it dodges properly)

     
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    # 2 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Written from the heart, I agree completely. I struggle with customers, but with varying success. They refuse to do grounding (in the private sector), they agree to RCDs with great reluctance ... I want the best, but it turns out as always ... The main condition is set so that it is cheaper.

     
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    # 3 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    I have an old electrical wiring at home, of course not the same as in the picture ... Somehow, I didn’t soar much before, but your article made you think. Is everything really so scary? The problem is that I didn’t especially plan the repair, so sometimes I change the wallpaper. And here, as I understand it, a major overhaul is needed, otherwise you won’t change the old wiring. She lived all the time and did not know any problems, but she read the article, it’s just a disaster ... And now what to do?

     
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    # 4 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Olya, I just didn’t want my article to make such a depressing impression on apartment owners with old wiring. Judging by your reaction, I didn’t succeed.

    Of course, we can say that for years we lived with the old wiring - and nothing. And this is partly true, with extreme caution.

    But all the troubles tend to occur suddenly, you probably know about it. Therefore, if you plan to repair, then take care at the same time and replacing the wiring - it’s calmer.And before repair, simply eliminate obvious flagrant malfunctions, such as sparkling and fused outlets and the like.

     
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    # 5 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    The guy greatly "went too far" and scared all the "housewives." Well, everything must be done then, and aluminum will stand for decades, and if it is bad, then copper is oxidized and heated very much. What the fuck current leakage through insulation !!! ??? at 220 V ??
    You still think up the radio emission and say that you must put the wiring into the metal hose. What they just won’t come up with is to take more money ... and difavtomats for each outlet, etc., to simply solder all the distribution boxes - no!

     
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    # 6 wrote: Author | [quote]

     
     

    Yuri, by points:

    1) Copper oxide conducts current no worse than copper itself. At least not much worse. And aluminum oxide is a dielectric.

    2) Leakage currents are relevant at any voltage. That is why the distance during installation between the wires of the electrical wiring and other utilities is normalized. The dangerous potential on the surface of the pipes arises not only due to the fact that someone grounded his washing machine on the pipeline.

    3) Radio emission does not need to be invented, but this is a separate issue and the issue has not yet been resolved.

    4) Before you solder the distribution boxes (by the way, soldering aluminum is a pleasure - a big hello!), You must at least know where they are. And in old houses it is not always easy.

    5) I don’t take money from anyone - neither more nor less. What nonsense? Solder, or better, cook twists, make the installation "good" (what is meant by this? - is unknown) - and you will be happy.

     
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    # 7 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    "Often the wires were simply twisted with pliers and wrapped with electrical tape."

    Not often, but always in the private sector, but in comparison with wagons and gray beds - twisting is the most reliable option, time-tested.

    Not everything is as scary as it is written, but there is a place to be in individual cases.

     
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    # 8 wrote: Author | [quote]

     
     

    The private sector is generally the electrical engineering Mordor. Especially if homeowners are those people who are predisposed to saving, complicated by vague ideas about the electrician as a whole.

    Passions in this Mordor can still be seen enough. The most interesting thing is that all the dangers associated with the operation of electrical wiring in the private sector are becoming "more dangerous".

    About the fact that "not everything is so scary" - it is possible, but after all, everything is really true. And scary or not scary - this is a matter of personal psychology.

    About Vagi, PPE and twisting - old holivar, I will not start a new battle.

     
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    # 9 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    This is true, everything has been said and shown about Sizi / Vagi for a long time. One colleague conducted an experiment and posted the results on one of the electronic sites. He made three connections and gradually increased the current passing through them. So, the first connection did not survive the connection type "wagon", then PPE and only then twisting. More than a good example, those who wish can repeat.

     
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    # 10 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Yuri,
    Hello everybody. The article is correct. Last week, they discovered a leak in the apartment of a stone house in a power line to an electrical outlet. The hostess did not bother paying for electric energy until she left home for a month. Turned off all electrical appliances, and clocked the counter. From a conversation with her, yes, I was sometimes plucked with electric shocks when soaping the ceilings. The wiring in the apartment is hidden, built in 98. And about the twists in the mounting openings, a separate song ... Especially, in the bays from the upper floors ... That's where the fun is. The lights running around the walls. Not many people even guess the introductory disconnect machines.

     
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    # 11 wrote: Author | [quote]

     
     

    Vladimir: yeah. There is also such a moment when, for example, when wallpapering, you experience indescribable sensations, although these same wallpapers directly do not even touch any wires. And through glue and thin insulation, it sews, and it happens that it is not very weak.

    Kuzmichu: well, you still provoke, no matter what.Twisting is not approved primarily because it is difficult to standardize and impossible to certify: one twists by 10 centimes, and the other two turns of motanet; one pliers tighten, and the other with two fingers barely twists.

    Then, everyone appeals to the overload ability, which is higher for good twists. Everyone certainly needs the connection of wires to pass all exams only "excellent", forgetting that "satisfactory" is also a good mark. Yes, twists sometimes get fives, if they were made with a skillful hand. Yes, Vagi have an honest, guaranteed three, regardless of the authorship of the installation.

    But is the troika a bad thing? There are two criteria in technology: passed - not passed, good - not good. So Vagi always fit. Just pick them up by current and do not overload. A reservation is necessary for twists: they must be able to do, but it is almost impossible to maintain. Therefore, they are not approved by the rules.

     
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    # 12 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Mr. author !!!! You were probably born recently ... (when new PUEs were created)
    And you in what house you live ?????????
    You’ve been so horrified by everything .. both about the private sector .. and about the Khrushchev .... moreover, here are the VAG compounds ... You touch upon the global problem of all houses built until the end of the 80s
    And what to do with the wiring in these houses? .. what is it, everything needs to be redone ???
    Nobody canceled aluminum! It is simply not recommended for laying !!! at home...
    And in special cases (Where aggressive environments are formed) are even mandatory ..
    The question is how the wiring is done! and what is the load on this wiring !!
    When the wiring was laid in 60-80 years, then the design load was 1.3 kW per apartment or house ... and now 3-8 kW are loaded on this wiring ... and how poor will it withstand ??? taking into account old age ????
    It is necessary to write about this that the old wiring is not designed to connect microwaves, electric ovens, air conditioners, old cars and other household appliances to the benefits of civilization (otherwise people think I’ll buy myself everything I want and plug it all into an outlet .. ... and I will be happy ...)
    And YOU predict about oxides .....

     
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    # 13 wrote: Author | [quote]

     
     

    Mister Mihail, I am depressed by such revelatory impulses. Too many unnecessary emotions.

    First, why so many exclamation and question marks? I can hear you so well, that is, I see.

    Secondly, I do not predict anything about any oxides, I am not an oracle.

    Thirdly, the current standards of PUE aluminum is prohibited for installation, and its operation is allowed. I just explained how it is justified and what is bad about the old aluminum wiring. Read carefully, and this is said.

    About the fact that they overload aluminum wiring ... Consumption rates for an apartment have not changed. As far as I remember, in apartments with electric stoves they are 7 kilowatts, and modern consumption falls within these limits. The situation is worse in apartments with a central gas power supply - there the norms were 3 kilowatts, and the wiring was appropriate. there really is trouble.

    Perhaps, about the increased consumption in modern homes, it was worth saying a few words, the moment is a bit missed. But by golly, you shouted in vain, because overloading any, and even the newest, wiring is not particularly tricky.

    It’s better to really remake the old aluminum wiring. Is this a revelation for you? It’s strange.

    Well, and finally. I was born almost 33 years ago. Recently, or not - judge for yourself. I live in a redesigned dorm panel. A few years ago, the power risers were centrally changed in it, a PE wire appeared. I changed the aluminum wiring in my apartment, now I have a three-wire copper. But I do not impose anything on you - decide for yourself, the person you, it seems to me, is quite old.

     
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    # 14 wrote: | [quote]

     
     

    Far from everywhere, everything is so deplorable! Aluminum wiring can be thirty years old and at the same time it can remain in good condition.

     
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    # 15 wrote: MaksimovM | [quote]

     
     

    Old wiring is a time bomb. An electrical wiring installed thirty years ago can be in good condition only if you personally installed it and are fully confident in the quality of its installation. And if the electrical wiring was installed by the then electricians, including those from the housing department, then the probability that it is in an unsatisfactory condition is 100%. He changed the wiring in apartments in which “major” repairs were centrally made about 15 years ago, which also included the replacement of wiring. When carrying out replacement wiring at that time were guided primarily by the principle of economy. Not only was an aluminum wire used to replace the wiring, but not all. More than half of the wire was saved (stolen). The main trunk lines from the meter to the junction boxes have left the old ones. More than half of the wiring lines supplying the sockets were from several pieces. In the junction boxes of the rooms the picture is not better: in twists of five to seven conductors, they are oxidized, they are very hot, since the insulating tape and a small section of the insulation of the conductors are completely melted. I wonder how such wiring could still function? I am more than sure that in a similar state almost all the wiring installed many years ago. In addition, the load of household appliances plays a key role. In whatever condition the wiring installed more than 15 years ago was, it is unlikely to correspond to the load of modern household electrical appliances. The average load of electrical appliances of an average apartment in the Soviet era was 8-10 A, and now such a load of only one electric kettle.

     
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    # 16 wrote: electrician | [quote]

     
     

    Electrician ZhEK-a or expelled for poor performance from vocational schools that trained electricians. Or, perhaps, he graduated from the same vocational school in three grades, while simultaneously studying, squeezing future painters from a neighboring stream of that same vocational school. Obviously, it does not develop further, does not follow new technologies.

    I agree with the author of the article. One of the most serious quality problems of old wiring is aging insulation. And leakage currents are a very serious justification for changing wiring. Their potential danger is that at first they are small (microamps), then they grow up, become "adolescent milliamps", turning into "gangster half-amps". And in the end, it begins to spark at a leakage voltage of 80-150 volts and a current of 0.5 amperes near some combustible material (such as wallpaper, tow, wooden structure) to set fire to your apartment. The process of growing up (read aging insulation) lasts for decades, but it happens anyway!

    Test paper, thanks to the author! And housewives need to be “scared" otherwise they and their children will not be shocked by electric shock - they will not stir.

    P.S. I have a top-loading washing machine. One of the reasons why I will use only machines with vertical loading is the ability not to use its heating elements. And it consumes only 300 watts. And then, only when the centrifuge is running and the engine is gaining full speed). And I warm water on gas and pour directly into the tank with a drum. Cheaper and faster in time washing itself. AND THE LOAD OF HOME ELECTRICAL WIRING can be reduced. And I prefer a collector engine. During washing, a voltage of 80 volts is applied to it. And a centrifuge of 1,500 rpm can only be sensibly done on a commutator engine. The asynchronous has 3000 rpm maximum, the collector 15,000 without problems.

    P.P.S. By the way, I recently noticed a trend - they reduced the power of heating elements in washing machines. Most likely in order to reduce the load on the power grid. But the washing time has increased, if something needs to be washed on the verge of boiling. Previously, the heating elements were set at 2 kW, now about 1 set. I know the question professionally, because I am engaged in their (and not only) repair.